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Many student landlords do NOT do 11 month tenancies - they charge 12 months I have had 3 children got through 3 different universities and no landlord offered 11 month tenancies. The best we had was Cardiff, where my daughter had 1/2 price for July and August BUT as long as she didn't live in it! So the landlord could do any work but the student were liable for CT (or not as students). He played the system - had paying tenants, an empty property and no liability as they had to pay for utilities and register as tenants so he didn't have to pay CT. One Landlord my son had in 2020 - had the departing student leaving the morning that my son was supposed to move in! Covid restrictions meant that there should have been at least 24hrs. My son had a wasted 4 hr round trip as they couldn't move in and the Landlord refused to give them any credit - furthermore he then claimed at the end of the tenancy he had had the house professionally cleaned (2 weeks before they moved in! yes the previous students were still there). There are some great student landlords who provide good accommodation and dont "rip" student off but many are greedy, do not look after their property, earn a lot more rent than if the property was in long term family rental. Make students sign up for a tenancy nearly a year in advance (who else does that), and in nearly all my children's cases ( and many of their friends) at the end of the tenancy claim for everything - even marks made on the wall by a bed they provide! I have had to threaten TDS for every case - charges for cleaning of the oven that I cleaned (photos proved cleaner at end than beginning) even one case where they tried to charge for cleaning 4 carpets in the house - only 2 rooms had carpets! And they were so cheap they would have disintegrated if they had been cleaned. The letting agent claiming the house was dusty - a whole video on a hand showing dust! Yes it was dusty as the students had given the keys back when they left at the end of the final term - 6 weeks (yes they paid for the 6 weeks they were not there) later the check out was done! The letting agent tried to claim for dust! for a plastic shower curtain that was long past it's best before they moved in but thankfully being in the business the "penalties" were quickly removed. The business model is definately to charge penalties at the end of the tenancy - and unfortunately most parents think that is the norm, that no matter how clean the property, the agent/LL will try and retain the majority of the deposit - I'm assuming the agent in these cases takes a % of the deposit they manage to keep! Imagine 5 students, the original penalty charge was over £2,000! ended up settling on £60 per student because they hadn't had the exterior windows cleaned. Perhaps this is the end of students being considered cash cows despite what many student Landlord's (and poor letting agents) think.

From: S S 30 August 2023 11:03 AM

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Having had 3 children go through university (yes I am lucky but to follow their chosen careers they had no choice) and there is no doubt that students are often treated as second class renters! We had to pay the deposit nearly a year in advance! Then often the condition when they moved into the property was poor - one even had a huge hole in the hallway from an unrepaired leak - which the letting agent didn't think to mention when we picked up the keys (it took 6 months before it was repaired!) . Every agent has tried to charge for repairs/cleaning - including the cleaning of 4 carpets - only 2 rooms had carpets! - which were the cheapest you can buy, a shower curtain that was probably 5 year old when they moved in, and I bleached clean! One agency sent us a bill of £1,500 for cleaning at the tenancy end! Fortunately I had taken a lot of photos before and after and was cetainly not paying for cleaning of an oven and hob that I had cleaned and was in better condition at the end of the tenancy than at the beginning. Yes, the other 4 housemates did not hoover under their beds at the end - fair enough but the £1,500 charge was reduced to £300!! I'm an experienced letting agent - I know how a house should be left andevery house that my children have lived in was left in the same condition that it was when they moved in (or better). One agent tried to charge for "dust" - they had the keys for 6 weeks before doing the check out - I'm sure there was dust in the rooms by then! I also see that whilst there are students who don't clean up, the majority are normal young people who pay an a much higher rent for often very poor accomodation. If you treat students with no respect , treat the accomodation that is provided with no respect by not maintaining to a good standard, then it is not surprising that students living in accomodation like that show no respect - they are just following the lead of the landlord and/or letting agent. Student houses earn a far higher income than if the same property was rented to a family - so yes that will come with more work. But yes, overall, I believe that students do get ripped off, which is a shame as that first interaction with private renting only works to create a bad impression of the industry. They believe that all landlords and agencies are there to rip them off.

From: S S 07 November 2022 10:10 AM

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The problem i have is with Letting agencies and Landlords who have a business model of charging for damage, cleaning, repainting when the students have returned the house in the same or better condition. One house my son was in received deductions of £1,500 (Corporate LA). Fortunately we had before and after photos which proved that the house had been left cleaner and in a better condition than when the tenancy started! I just said we would go to TDS and the deductions suddenly dropped and only the two students who hadn't hoovered under their bed were charged. The agent even tried to charge for a mark on the wall made by the bed that they supplied. In my daughters case, the agent included carpet cleaning for 4 carpets despite there only being 2 rooms with carpets! and full replacement of a £10 shower curtain, that was NOT NEW when they moved in...another situation where I had to threaten to take to TDS and the deductions were recalculated. In this instance, they had received the keys for the property 6 weeks before the end of the tenancy and on inspection 6 weeks later tried to charge for dust! Unfortunately many corporate letting agencies just see students and their parents as easy "deduction" money and work on the basis that each student can afford to lose a few hundred in cleaning or damage or redecoration despite the fact that in some places the students have paid collectively £30k to rent a 4 bedroomed house. There will be a level of wear and tear but the reward for the LL income is more than they would get if they rented their 3 bed house to a family rather than 5 students. They can't have it all.

From: S S 01 July 2022 01:18 AM

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Grumpy Doug Yes students sign an AST but UNLIKE other renters - they are pressurised into signing contracts often 10 months before they move into the property - UNLIKE every other renter. I have paid for a room for the last year - which my son has not spent one night in......all because he had to sign a tenancy agreement 9 months before the tenancy started (January 2020) and because often LL dont bother having any time for essential maintenance between tenancies - in this property last year the previous tenants were moving out on the day my son was supposed to move in so he couldn't move in for 5 days! reduced rent - not offered. Maintenance loans!! My son receives a maintenance loan of £1,386 to cover 4 months - given that his rent is £550 per month before bills and living expenses, doesn't actually cover much. I'm not saying that students should be given rent free by PRS but perhaps signing tenancies 9 months in advance is not a practice that should be encouraged. If all student properties could only be signed for up to 4 months in advance and everyone stuck to it then whats the problem! You'll still get the students you want. Furthermore the business models for some LA and LL are to then charge for anything and everything at the end of the tenancy. My son spent 4 hrs cleaning his bathroom/bedroom - removing all the limescale limescale - it was cleaner than when he moved into the room. (thankfully I had photos to prove) - the LA tried to charge for painting a wall because the bed (provided by the LL) had left a tiny mark on the wall!!! The oven and hob apparently needed a professional - again I had photos to prove that it was actually cleaner at the end of the tenancy than at the start... but some LA look at it and think - 5 students - we made them pay a deposit of 2 months (pre June19) so we've got a £1000 per tenant - so we'll charge them £300 each at the end - they will be grateful to get £700 back. Sadly for that LA, I'm a property professional and after evidence and a threat to go to TDS, they backed down. SO yes in many ways, students get a raw deal - however, treat them with some level of respect, provide them with a decent well-looked after property and the majority are good tenants. Student houses do require more maintenance because there can up be a large number of adults all living in a small space - but they PAY to live there - and they pay more than a family would for the same space. So the yield is higher. Every LL I know who has a good, looked-after student property doesn't have a problem. If you dont choose to be a student LL - Andrew Townsend - fine. But most student are not "I'm entitled" - they are very much aware of the cost that they are incurring - £9k per year tutition fees that no other generation incurred. Student loans they have to pay back - My daughter a recent medical school graduate has left university with around £60k of debt - people who graduated 2 years before her had about £17k - she doesn't get paid any more than they did/do yet her debt is 3x theirs. She's was not "I'm entitled", neither is my son, or my youngest daughter.

From: S S 20 April 2021 09:30 AM

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